What effectively can Breeze what W3TC can't?

Hi,
as I had some trouble with W3tc I was so keen to install Cloudways Breeze plugin (https://wordpress.org/plugins/wt-display-breeze/) - it is incredible fast! Before I checked different plugins ... now I can really recommend Breeze!
Cheers!

If you have a slow admin panel, change Object Caching to Memcached and if that does not work turn off Object Caching all together.

As for WordPress caching the problem is that W3 Total Cache supports pretty well all types of caching and other caching plugins seem to miss the mark for including all caching type options.

This plugin author has had the same frustration and decide to make his own plugin (I have not tried it). https://wordpress.org/plugins/simple-cache/

There is a fork of W3 Total Cache that is actively developed but personally I think the above plugin is a better approach for basic users to advanced web developers since W3 Total Cache can be a real beast to get working right.

By now we have added a "Clean Wordpress (no Cloudways optimizations) option for Wordpress deployment. It will have no plugins or any other Cloudways customization and can by used by those of you who want to start with a clean slate.

We keep researching on caching plugins meanwhile.

Cloudways Team

By now we have added a "Clean Wordpress (no Cloudways optimizations) option for Wordpress deployment. It will have no plugins or any other Cloudways customization and can by used by those of you who want to start with a clean slate.

We keep researching on caching plugins meanwhile.

Cloudways Team

It's a shame that CloudWays force the W3 Cache on every install by default.
This should be an option, not forcefully push.

Every new wp install on cloudways requires me to:
1. Disable the w3 cache plugin.
2. Delete the plugin.
3. Connect with ftp.
4. Delete the w3 cache folder
5. Find out that permissions must be repaired to do that.
6. I reset permission, and go back to the FTP
7. I can now delete the W3 Cache folder.
8. Clear Varnish cache or disable it.

This is done for every new WordPress install with CloudWays.

This is a great waste of time.
Just make the W3 Cache as optional, or let the client to install it himself.
This is not Wix or some other grandma website building tools.
This is a place for professionals, and they usually do know what they want, and how to install it.

I love the Support Team, but I seriously consider moving away back to DigitalOcean, since I get a true clean server there.

So please, remove W3 cache plugin by default. PLEASE!

I abandoned W3 Total Cache and now use WP Rocket for all my sites. Much easier to configure or you can leave it at the default configuration for much caching benefit.

After turning off object caching, suddenly my backend was as speedy as the frontend ! I agree that CW should have a better caching solution than installing it with W3TC.

I found lots of sites advising to turn it off especially in shared hosting environment, but guess what, this is a VPS ! I won't say it's a fault of the underlying system resources but guess it has to do with WP itself.

So CW, can you explain to us, how are you going to address this issue? Like many comments below, they all hit on perfect points. This being 400+ votes now and nothing at all except "under review" isn't very helpful or professional.

I have since then created another suggestion which is that you guys should be creating your own plugin to handle all these caching thing, since you're the advocate of speed, caching, etc, and the reason why i and many users chose to host with you and not 100+ others.

So, please get up to speed and put some priority to this before you lose more clients.

Please stop pre-installing any caching plugin at all. We use CW for a lot of staging sites, and its a complete pain having to deactivate and uninstall the rubbish W3 plugin when working with 40+ sites.

This SHOULD be up to the user. Recommend using a caching plugin, by all means. But there really are a LOT of use cases where a caching plugin is NOT the way to go.

And even if a caching plugin is used, it should NOT be an abandoned one.

I see can see that this was a good thought in the beginning, but PLEASE stop having this absolute rubbish pre-installed.

I would say leave it out entirely - I'm actually noticing a performance hit on the backend of a second or two when it is enabled as preconfigured. As soon as I disable it that goes away and the backend speeds up.

Other caching plugins like WP Rocket or Supercache don't create this performance issue.

I sent a ticket to Support and was told that Cloudways is this suggestion is still under consideration, and I'm told to update the W3TC cache directly from my plugins page. My understanding is that W3TC 0.9.5.1 is non-PHP7 compliant and giving alot of issues.

http://tickets.cloudways.com/requests/48459

Cloudways. What is the solution now?

Another vote for using https://github.com/szepeviktor/fix-w3tc

Glad to know Cloudways is working to integrate this. *thumbsup*

That is the publication date, not the update date.

Cloudways Team

Cloudways - the doc you says is updated still shows April 10 as last update

https://support.cloudways.com/wordpress-w3-total-cache-configuration-for-optimal-performance/

Enabling Object Cache > Alternative PHP Cache (APC / APCu) still results in a really slow backend.

Disabling speeds it up considerably, just wondering if you have any thoughts on this?

We have updated the W3TC KB:
https://support.cloudways.com/wordpress-w3-total-cache-configuration-for-optimal-performance/

As for the easiest way to update your WordPress installs, as you may know, all our servers come with wp-cli pre-installed, so you can easily update W3TC, login in via SSH to your server, moving to the web root of your WordPress site and executing:

wp plugin update w3-total-cache

Hope this helps.

Cloudways Team

0.9.5 is being deployed with new WP installs. We are finishing testing all new settings and will update the W3TC configuration KB very soon.

Cloudways Team

yes, after update to w3tc 0.9.5 i'm struggeling to find the best settings as it now has redis support and other stuff. please update your knowledge base with recommended settings!

Yes, please lauch complete kb asap.

There are many new features in a new version 0.9.5 of W3 Total Cache plugin. What is the best way to tune it on Cloudways platform (with WooCommerce, Varnish, Redis etc)?

I'm completely lost in all these caching technologies and options. We need a new detailed and clear manual from Cloudways about new W3TC settings ASAP!